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Post by phantomgirl110 on Jul 17, 2007 1:11:33 GMT -8
I'm just bored. Humor me. LOL!
Honestly, there's no excuse for this other than that the idea popped into my head and I decided to make it a poll, just to see what you'd all answer.
Feel free to use this thread to discuss Meg's relationship(s) with other characters, whether romantic or otherwise, here as well.
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Post by phantomphreak4life on Jul 17, 2007 7:12:52 GMT -8
I really cant see Meg in a ship with anyone other than Erik. She's not connected to anyone else in the story. You cant even argue Raoul because Christine is her best friend. There is just no relation to the two characters.
IMO, at least.
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Post by midnightangel on Jul 17, 2007 8:18:26 GMT -8
Well, as crazy as I'm going to sound, I'm attempting a sort of Meg/Nadir phic. Mind you, it's Meg/Erik to start with. The two are happily married and expecting a child, but when Erik learns he is dying, he tells Meg to stay with the only person he trusted after he passes: his friend, Nadir Khan. Meg lives with Nadir for months and she accepts him as the closest thing to family she has left (her mother had died a year before Erik). He helps her to raise Erik's child.
It's not really shippy, so much as a friendship phic, but I'm sure to some, it will be viewed as such. It's more about two people coming together after the loss of someone they both held dear and staying together for the sake of that someone's memory.
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Post by Little Giry on Jul 17, 2007 8:42:13 GMT -8
Call me nuts (go ahead, I think it myself at times) I go for the Meg/Andre pairing. She would have to marry someone (to her mother's highest hopes) with money so she'll be comfortable, and let's face it, in 1870 women didn't have a choice. I think Andre would take care of her, and I'm also looking at this at the sensible point of view as well. No way in heaven Christine is giving up Raoul (and vice-versa) so Meg isn't going with him. I think after the opera fire (book, movie, stage, whatever) Andre would be rather shaken and want to settle down somewhere in the country with a young wife. Madame Giry, having said young daughter, would probably be thrilled to get Meg away from opera life and agree. I'm not saying they'll be passionatly in love, (come on, Andre's like fifty) but I think she would have a certain fondness for him, and he might love her, in his own ways. That's my theory anyway.
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Post by midnightangel on Jul 17, 2007 8:45:56 GMT -8
That makes perfect sense, actually, considering the era POTO takes place in. But why Andre over any of the other men?
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Post by Little Giry on Jul 17, 2007 9:35:17 GMT -8
Eh, I always liked Andre more than Firmen, Piangi, well he's married (and dead) and Nadir, I dunno, I see him as more of a protective Uncle/dad/brother to Meg (if that makes any sense).
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Post by midnightangel on Jul 17, 2007 9:46:25 GMT -8
Eh, I always liked Andre more than Firmen, Piangi, well he's married (and dead) and Nadir, I dunno, I see him as more of a protective Uncle/dad/brother to Meg (if that makes any sense). Wait. Who do you see as a protective relative to Meg? I'm slightly confused. My sister is attempting an AU R/M story. But that ship makes me uneasy, because that means there's loads of E/C subtext. I'm not an E/C shipper; R/C all the way! Is there anyone else that feels bad about the R/M ship? |
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Post by Little Giry on Jul 17, 2007 10:23:24 GMT -8
Oh, sorry, I meant Nadir, I always thought of him as protective of Meg, but only in the Erik/Meg relationships, otherwise I don't think he'd be anything to her.
NEVER an E/C shipper (makes me sick really), R/C makes me all fuzzy and warm inside. Every R/M I've read never really made sense to me. Everyone was out of character (except for this one paragraph in an R/M fic, when Meg and Raoul were walking through a park, it was before they were in love or something, I recall it was very canon) and I had to wade through chapter after chapter of E/C fluff. *shudder*
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Post by phantomgirl110 on Jul 17, 2007 12:08:59 GMT -8
Wow, I had no idea this topic would get such thought-provoking responses! I really was just creating it out of boredom and sleep deprivation. This is awesome!
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Post by midnightangel on Jul 17, 2007 13:18:08 GMT -8
Oh, sorry, I meant Nadir, I always thought of him as protective of Meg, but only in the Erik/Meg relationships, otherwise I don't think he'd be anything to her. Oh, agreed. Definitely. That's the kind of relationship I can see them developing. I'm exploring the idea that Erik died in the middle of the E/M relationship, and Nadir taking on the protector role. Like I said, it's more of a hurt/comfort/friendship type of relationship that would develop between the two. Another strange thought about the two, though. Nadir's dead wife is described as looking like Reza, who is fairly pale for a Persian boy. Assuming Rookheeya was from Persia (which I'm fairly certain she was), she would be likely to have dark hair and eyes. Leroux!!Meg is described as being pale but dusky with black hair and eyes. Am I looking for resemblance that isn't there to aid my phic, or does anyone else see where I am coming from? E/C makes me ill too. It's good to know I'm not alone. My sister's R/M story is pretty good, but on the same note, it kinda disregards Christine, which irritates me most about the ship. She's Meg's best friend in ALW's story and Raoul's girlfriend. She doesn't just disappear, you know? |
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Post by phantomphreak4life on Jul 17, 2007 16:59:01 GMT -8
Meg/Andre isnt too crazy when you think about it...
Especially the little blonde angel...
But...only as his mistress. Since Meg is so much younger than both Andre and Firmin, I dont think they would want to marry her, but only make her their mistress. It was common in the 19th century for men to have wives and much younger mistresses, often only teenagers.
I love R/C. He loves her, she loves him, there's fluff. It's completely laid out for you.
E/C I'm not so fond of. And not just because I dont care for Christine. First of all, she already loves Raoul, always has, always will, blah blah blah, scarf in the sea, and all that good stuff. I cannot imagine Christine just forgetting all that happened (Don Juan, The Crash, lying to her, etc.) and just falling into Erik's arms. I dont think she would want to live her life in hiding with him. She's more the fancy carriage and stroll in the park type. I dont think she could live a life in the dark, a life of solitude with Erik. It just dont think it would've worked out between them.
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Post by Opera Angel on Jul 17, 2007 19:29:44 GMT -8
I'm not gonna vote or even say much on this topic since I'll probalby get fruit thrown at me for anything I say, but I'll just say that since I really don't want to choose I'll stick with the E/M pairing.
Although the Nadir idea sounds interesting.
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Post by Little Giry on Jul 17, 2007 21:16:20 GMT -8
phantomphreak4life said:
Meg/Andre isnt too crazy when you think about it...
Especially the little blonde angel...
But...only as his mistress. Since Meg is so much younger than both Andre and Firmin, I dont think they would want to marry her, but only make her their mistress. It was common in the 19th century for men to have wives and much younger mistresses, often only teenagers.
No way! Older men married younger girls! Ever read Bleak House? John Jarndyce meant to take Esther for his wife (sorry for spoilers for those of you who haven't read it) and he was in his fifties! It happened all the time, especially if they were rich. North and South, Mr. Thornton's younger sister married an older gentleman as well
"He's a little grey I'll admit" Yes, men did have mistresses, but I don't see the book Andre (which is the one I would base the pairing on) as having Meg as his mistress, when he could very well marry her, (and I don't see Madame Giry pleased with her daughter carrying on as a mere maîtresse.) that's me anyway.
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Post by midnightangel on Jul 18, 2007 8:10:12 GMT -8
Movie Andre has a mistress already, besides. One of the ballet girls.
But I don't see book Madame Giry being pleased with this match. Her daughter is to be Empress! The Ghost promised! Blah-blah-blah... but then, idiot Forsyth thinks Madame Giry will be pleased with any path Meg goes, so it all depends on your view of the woman....
What about Meg and the Baron Castelot-Barbezac? Acording to Leroux, Meg becomes Baronne Castelot-Barbezac, thus marrying Baron CB. Granted, if you write a M/CB phic, it's going to sound like Meg/OC, but it would be the truest ship you could put her in.
I always wondered about him, anyways. I imagine he ran in the same circles as a certain Viscount de Changy. And Raoul's circles (excluding Raoul) seem to be pleasure seekers, who look for parties, sport, and companionship. Raoul, on the other hand, is more withdrawn and brooding. In my own twisted imagination, CB is a friend of Raoul's-- childhood buddy or something-- and he brings Meg with him to dinner with the Vicomte and his wife. Since in my imagination, it's moviebookkayverse all together, Meg and Christine are reunited. Sometimes, in this little imagined universe, Meg had been with Erik until Erik's death or departure from France. If it is departure from France, him returning makes an interesting story. If dead, her birthing Erik's child instead of Baron CB's is also an interesting twist, seemingly cliched, but nice. And interesting, when you socialize Meg & Erik's child with Christine & Raoul's child.
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Post by phantomluver4ever1 on Jul 18, 2007 20:10:08 GMT -8
I forgot about the baron from leroux book. I might make a story just 4 the fun of it. That would be quite interesting and I wonder what people would think of it. If I do should I stick with leroux meg or movie meg? What are everyone's thoughts?
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