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Post by Opera Angel on Apr 5, 2007 11:56:28 GMT -8
That sounds awful.Why include that? That really has nothing to do with anything at this point of this awful story anyway.
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Post by phantomgirl110 on Apr 9, 2007 13:15:34 GMT -8
In answer to a question asked earlier by our mod, uhhh...what? I think you're referring to a different Little Giry. (Reason I don't join is because my folks don't want me giving out personal information, and signing up, I'd have to...is it okay if I post as a guest? If not I'll stop. Oh yeah, it's completely fine for you to just post as a guest! I was just curious how come you didn't join and login, I wasn't bothered or anything. Sorry if you thought I was, I didn't mean for my comment to come across that way. And yeah, I have to echo what everyone else is saying; how pointless can a chapter get? |
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Post by Little Giry on Apr 9, 2007 18:24:06 GMT -8
I just didn't want to go against rules or whatever...
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Post by phantomphreak4life on Apr 10, 2007 3:55:47 GMT -8
So I've gone ahead and skimmed the book a litte bit. Every single chapter is narrated by a different character....what is this guy thinking. And he thinks Leroux was confusing? The characters that tell the story have nothing to do with the plot, I just dont understand.
An upcoming chapter is narrated by Meg. I was thinking I'd type it out for you guys since its not too long. Plus I think it'd be nice for you all to read this horrible writing. It honestly sounds like a 5th grader wrote it.
I'll have a new review up A.S.A.P. Life has been kinda crazy lately so I appreciate everyone being so patient with me.
I really love the all the discussions we've been having recently. It's great that Little Meg is getting more action.
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Post by Little Giry on Apr 10, 2007 11:25:53 GMT -8
I don't get it, I mean, if you're publishing something, you really, really have to be motivated, (or at least I would) you would have to have such a strong conviction that what you're writing is going to be something of your best ideas, your best work. Would you want to do your very best? How (I can't even type it's so mind-boggling) how do you write so shoddily and think it's incredible? Gaston Leroux IS hard to grasp (for one thing, it's been translated for us from french, and so their wording is different,) but it was also they way they wrote and spoke back then as well. Add to that it's been translated, and it will be confusing! If you try and mimick that style of writing, you're in for a heap of confusion and a whole lotta crap. (Unles you've analyzed and understood it)
Oh, I mean to ask, does he use modern speech in POM? You know like "Okay" or "Come on" like that?
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Post by phantomgirl110 on Apr 10, 2007 11:45:55 GMT -8
If you try and mimick that style of writing, you're in for a heap of confusion and a whole lotta crap. I agree. And then he goes and BASHES that style of writing in his prologue! What the heck is up with this guy? He tries (badly) to mimick the style, makes his novel far more confusing and bizarre than Leroux's, and then bashes Leroux's?!? *kicks Forsyth* |
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Post by Little Giry on Apr 10, 2007 20:46:20 GMT -8
FACEPALM! APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!
FACEPALM! APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!
FACEPALM! APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!
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Post by Ria on Apr 11, 2007 21:41:09 GMT -8
...I applaud you for being able to actually read this crap. I can't believe ALW is making a musical based off of this.  |
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Post by Opera Angel on Apr 13, 2007 11:15:56 GMT -8
AT least Leroux was consistent in his book. You knew who was telling the story and switching it to the Persian didn't confuse me at all. I only read it twice because I had forgotten the story some... I'll problaby never read Phantom of Manhattan. Maybe I should read Susan Kay again..There were some great Christine quotes that I love ...
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Post by musicmontage on Apr 15, 2007 16:37:16 GMT -8
Meg becomes a maid!?! *gag* This is horrible! And Muhlheim is NOT a romantic name AT ALL!!!!!
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Post by phantomphreak4life on Apr 16, 2007 17:46:39 GMT -8
So you know how I said the last chapter was really stupid? This one might be even dumber (I know right). It seems that Forsyth cant write allusions for the life of him. It's obvious he isnt from NY. Chapter 5: The Luck of Cholly Bloom POV = some random reporter that has no importance to the story The chapter opens with this reporter who is having trouble finding a story, blah blah blah "It was in this coffee shop. You know Fellini's? On Broadway at Twenty-sixth. A bad day. Spent most of it chasing up a new lead on the Central Park murders and nothing." -No, we dont know what Fellini's is. And you would say "Broadway and Twenty-sixth". And just because it's Central Park doesnt mean there are murders everyday. I mean, I'm not saying I'd wanna spend a night there alone, but he couldnt have made a reference to somewhere where there actually IS a murder everyday? He's obviously uneducated on the subject and too lazy to look it up on Google. (being from NY there's like a whole set of rules we follow and get extremely mad when people break them) Then Madame Giry's Mr. Lawyer Guy walks in. He walks over to the reporter and Forsyth goes all Brooklyn on us. "Do I speak French? Is the Chief Rabbi Jewish? Well, all right, a little French. So I says to him, 'Bon-jewer Mon-sewer.' Just trying to be a good New Yorker." -If Forsyth wants to be a New Yorker than I suggest he move here and say that to someone and watch his ass get jumped. Excuse my language but..."so I says to him"  ? Let's not stereotype New Yorkers here Forsyth. He takes Dufour to someone who speaks french and finds out he needs to deliver a letter to a Mr. Erik Muhlheim. The guy who speaks french suggest they visit the E.M Corporation building. (I'm sure you can figure the "E.M" out). So they go to the building, the people in the lobby give them a hard time blah blah blah. They finally make it up to the 39th floor (yes, Erik lives on the 39th floor. a big change from 5 stories down). Darius meets them and says to leave the letter with him. They dont want to, but of course they leave the letter. And Erik is watching from behind a portrait? I cant explain because I didnt really understand what the author was saying. But yeah Erik is watching them. So the reporter goes back to work and everyone thinks hes nuts when he tells his co-workers his story. Wow, I just.....Wow. I think I'm gonna jump out my window now. |
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Post by Little Giry on Apr 16, 2007 19:37:04 GMT -8
LOL. All I could think of was Erik standing behind a picture, a jack knife in his hands, mumbling to himself as he carves out two eye-holes. LOL!
As for the chapter OH. MY. GAH. *facepalm*
I can't even think of a decent response. It's horrendous. Let's leave it at that.
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Post by phantomgirl110 on Apr 20, 2007 14:35:23 GMT -8
LOL. All I could think of was Erik standing behind a picture, a jack knife in his hands, mumbling to himself as he carves out two eye-holes. LOL! LOL! That's slightly better than what I immediately pictured: Erik standing in a corner, trying to hide himself by holding a small piece of framed artwork in front of his face. I totally look like part of the decor!And the chapter...I'm still tripping over the fact that Forsyth trashed Leroux for being confusing and then brings in so many random narrators. What was he on when he wrote this? |
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Post by Opera Angel on Apr 21, 2007 11:51:28 GMT -8
Gosh I can write better and I got C's in English..at least when I attempt to write something I keep the point of view constant sounded like something a 1st grader were right....although kindergartners usually misspell words
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Post by phantomphreak4life on May 9, 2007 3:57:33 GMT -8
With the regular golf season coming to an end, hopefully I can have more regular reviews up. After Counties and Leagues in 2 weeks I'll have a lot more time.
Even when I do find myself with a couple of minutes to read and post, I just dont have the will power. You've no idea what reading this crap, I mean wonderfully written book, is like.
So sorry about the delays everyone. Stick with me though! I still have A LOT to say. And I'll be posting an entire chapter narrated by Meg soon.
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? Let's not stereotype New Yorkers here Forsyth.